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I was excited to learn about Julian Barling and Nick Turner's work; we just recorded a podcast episode (out in December maybe?) about this shift in language I've seen, in some corners anyway, and, admittedly, my clients are far on the bellweather curve, from "incentivizing" employees to taking good care of them, which I believe is paradigm shift. The whole nature of thinking about incentives rests on this antagonistic labor relation-- giving employees the minimum viable amount of "good things" and pay to "motivate" them-- of course, which seems very in line with what you're writing about here.

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Great discussion, Bob. I'm with Ed Lawler - it is ever so. I'd be interested in what employee-owned companies would say are their priorities. Bob's Redmill is a good example of one. According to that Bob, there are about 6,000 such companies. One other Ed Lawler supportive thoughts - I wonder if in large companies, the "deciders" have a clue what their employees lives are like. Or really care so long as the profits keep rolling in and the share holders are happy.

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